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Lot #3034
Lot #3036

Lot 3035: Winchester 1885-Carbine 44 WCF

Extremely Rare Documented 20 Inch Barrel Winchester Model 1885 High Wall Single Shot Saddle Ring Carbine with Factory Letter

Auction Location: Rock Island, IL

Auction Date: September 11, 2015

Lot 3035: Winchester 1885-Carbine 44 WCF

Extremely Rare Documented 20 Inch Barrel Winchester Model 1885 High Wall Single Shot Saddle Ring Carbine with Factory Letter

Auction Location: Rock Island, IL

Auction Date: September 11, 2015

Estimated Price: $15,000 - $22,500

Extremely Rare Documented 20 Inch Barrel Winchester Model 1885 High Wall Single Shot Saddle Ring Carbine with Factory Letter

Manufacturer: Winchester
Model: 1885-Carbine
Type: Carbine
Gauge: 44 WCF
Barrel: 20 inch round
Finish: blue/casehardened
Grip:
Stock: walnut
Item Views: 2239
Serial Number:
Catalog Page: 24
Class: Antique
Description:

This is an example of an extremely rare Winchester Model 1885 High Wall Saddle Ring Carbine. Research done in Cody at the BBHC indicates only 17 of these High Wall SRC were ever produced, and with only two survivors known; this carbine and one other in Australia. The accompanying factory letter verifies the all unique and important carbine configuration with rifle furniture, 20 inch barrel length, caliber 44, rifle butt, and it was received in the warehouse on April 6, 1888, and shipped to order number 5307 in an order of 10 carbines the next day. There is also a copy of the Winchester ledger which shows this carbine in a group of 10 all configured alike. These carbines were most likely all shipped to Australia, and only 23760 (this carbine) and one other have ever been located. The other remains in Australia. Interestingly enough, nowhere in Winchester catalogs were the High Wall carbines ever mentioned. With that in mind, this carbine should not exist. This carbine has the standard blade front and adjustable buck horn rear sights. There is a factory saddle ring and stud mounted on the left side of the receiver, it has a blue barrel and casehardened remaining parts and is mounted with a smooth walnut forearm and straight grip stock with a crescent buttplate. It should be noted that Winchester did make special order short rifles with 20 inch or shorter barrels, which are scarce in their own right; however, the short rifles are not saddle ring carbines. The factory letter must state "Carbine" like this on. Baby Low Wall carbines are known to collectors and are much more common with approximately 250 having been produced. This High Wall Saddle Ring Carbine is documented and believed to be the only one still in America and only approximately 17 were produced. This High Wall Saddle Ring Carbine was returned from Australia some years ago.

Rating Definition:

Very good. The metal surfaces have a smooth brown patina with DA very lightly scratched into the left side of the receiver. The solid stock shows some minor shallow nicks that have been sanded and then the stock was oiled some time ago. The forearm shows a few minor dings and dents. Wood to metal fit is excellent, with overall very sound wood. The markings are clear. The action is fine. If you are a Winchester collector, this is a great and possibly once in a life time opportunity to own the rarest of rare Winchester Saddle Ring Carbines documented by factory letter and ledger.



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