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Lot 171: Type II Cadet Alteration U.S. Springfield 1807 "Indian Carbine"

Type II Cadet Alteration U.S. Springfield Model 1807 Flintlock "Indian Carbine"

Auction Location: Rock Island, IL

Auction Date: December 3, 2021

Lot 171: Type II Cadet Alteration U.S. Springfield 1807 "Indian Carbine"

Type II Cadet Alteration U.S. Springfield Model 1807 Flintlock "Indian Carbine"

Auction Location: Rock Island, IL

Auction Date: December 3, 2021

Estimated Price: $2,250 - $3,500
Price Realized:
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Type II Cadet Alteration U.S. Springfield Model 1807 Flintlock "Indian Carbine"

Manufacturer: Springfield Armory U.S.
Model: 1807
Type: Musket
Gauge: 54
Barrel: 33 3/8 inch round
Finish: bright
Grip:
Stock: walnut
Item Views: 1095
Item Interest: Average
Serial Number:
Catalog Page: 86
Class: Antique
Description:

Springfield Armory manufactured 1,202 .54 caliber smooth bore flintlock carbines for the Indian Department between 1807 and 1810. The Model 1807 Carbine was the first U.S. arsenal made carbine. The carbines were intended as gifts for the Native American tribes, but only a few hundred were initially distributed given 950 were still in storage at Springfield in 1830 and 690 still remained in 1848. According to page 362 of the book "American Military Shoulder Arms Volume II" by George D. Moller, "In response to a request for cadet arms by E. A. Hitchcock, commandant of the Corps of Cadets at West Point, on January 24, 1830, Chief of Ordnance Colonel Bomford ordered Springfield Armory Superintendent Roswell Lee to alter Indian carbines 'as to receive bayonets.'" Reportedly, 321 Model 1807s were altered for cadet use in total with two types of alterations observed, including 31 Type Is delivered in 1830 and 290 Type IIs delivered in 1832. Model 1807 Carbines are extremely rare in any configuration. The lock plate has beveled edges, a teat at the tail, "US" in script over the federal eagle and shield emblem and "SPRINGFIELD" in an arch at the center and "1808" at the tail. The buttplate is also dated "1808". "US" marked at the top of the breech and "P/eagle head/V" proofs on the left of the breech. The furniture is all brass including a small oval thumb plate. It has a pin fastened stock, and the wooden ramrod has a flared brass tip. "GDM" (George D. Moller) collection initials marked at the toe of the stock. Provenance: The George Moller Collection

Rating Definition:

Fair as reconverted to flintlock configuration with brown patina overall and extensive moderate pitting visible on the lock and barrel, a mix of bright and aged patina on the brass furniture, and general moderate wear. Stock is good as lengthened, lightly sanded and re-oiled with light scratches and dings, a crack ahead of the lock, a chip behind the lock, a small crack ahead of the rear lock screw, cracks ahead of the trigger guard, two cracks on the right of the buttplate, and slightly undersized at the buttplate. Mechanically fair.



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