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Lot #3388

Lot 3387: "Ithaca" Marked North Vietnamese/Viet Cong Copy of a 1911A1

Unique and Very Scarce "Ithaca" Marked North Vietnamese/Viet Cong Copy of a Model 1911A1 Semi-Automatic Pistol

Auction Location: Rock Island, IL

Auction Date: August 27, 2023

Lot 3387: "Ithaca" Marked North Vietnamese/Viet Cong Copy of a 1911A1

Unique and Very Scarce "Ithaca" Marked North Vietnamese/Viet Cong Copy of a Model 1911A1 Semi-Automatic Pistol

Auction Location: Rock Island, IL

Auction Date: August 27, 2023

Estimated Price: $3,500 - $5,500
Price Realized:
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Unique and Very Scarce "Ithaca" Marked North Vietnamese/Viet Cong Copy of a Model 1911A1 Semi-Automatic Pistol

Manufacturer: Vietnam
Model: 1911
Type: Pistol
Gauge: 45 ACP
Barrel: 5 inch round
Finish: blue
Grip: hardwood
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Item Interest: Active
Serial Number:
Catalog Page: 258
Class: Curio & Relic Handgun
Description:

Manufactured by an unknown party, this pistol bears a strong resemblance to known "underground" pistols from the Indochina/Vietnam region. Such weapons were pressed into service for the First Indochina War against the French, and would continue to be used by factions on both sides of the North/South split after the French left. Such weapons are often associated with the Viet Cong, an example of a similar weapon is pictured on page 837 of "Small Arms of the World" by Ezell. Made mainly by hand in crude workshops, Ezell notes that these weapons have been seen with finish "surprisingly good considering the circumstances under which they were made". Clearly patterned after a Model 1911A1, this example appears to have been crafted by someone who had seen a World War II era pistol manufactured by Ithaca. The left of the slide is marked "ITHACACUN COINC/ITHACA - NY". The right side of the frame is marked with the serial number and dated "1953", making it likely it was manufactured during the First Indochina War. It is fitted with blade and notch sights, checkered slide catch, serrated thumb safety, non-functioning grip safety (possibly a later replacement), very slightly arched serrated mainspring housing with a lanyard staple on the bottom, and a pair of checkered hardwood grips. The magazine is absent.

Rating Definition:

Good, retaining traces of the original blue finish with the balance mostly a smooth grey-brown patina and some scattered patches of light pitting. The grips are good showing significant wear, a minor crack in the left panel, and minor handling marks scattered throughout. The slide does not properly retract, but the hammer and trigger function as they should. A rare and unique example of a Vietnamese workshop-made copy of an Ithaca Model 1911A1!



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